tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post1213583836736289832..comments2024-03-18T10:48:00.238+10:00Comments on GUN WATCH: Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizensjonjayrayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13363092874281160320noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-78828887158494876962015-12-08T09:06:51.688+10:002015-12-08T09:06:51.688+10:00"Speeders don't follow speed limits, so n..."Speeders don't follow speed limits, so no one should be allowed to have a car" is the proper misguided analogy that takes guns away from law abiding citizens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-38325188106251208112015-08-05T15:39:41.450+10:002015-08-05T15:39:41.450+10:00Murderers don't follow murder laws, so why hav...Murderers don't follow murder laws, so why have them?<br /><br />Drug dealers don't follow drug laws, so why have them?<br /><br />Speeders don't follow speed limits, so why have them?<br /><br />Criminals don't follow gun laws, so why have them?<br /><br />See how stupid this line of thought is? And yet, it's often quoted by the gun addicts to justify their crack. "Criminals don't follow guns laws, so they won't work". News flash Einstein, criminals don't follow laws, that doesn't equate to a good reason to abandon them.OnlyWiseMannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-47775241531923692782015-08-05T15:33:49.913+10:002015-08-05T15:33:49.913+10:00LOL, you guys are hilarious. Irretrievably stupid...LOL, you guys are hilarious. Irretrievably stupid, but hilarious.<br /><br />Gun addicts... lol. Pathetic.<br /><br />Cherry pick whatever stats you want.... less guns = better. Period. Anyone saying otherwise is an imbecile. Now, since you guys are stupid AND addicts, I don't expect rational thought or action from you, and you never disappoint.<br /><br />Remember, if the only thing that stopped a bad man with a gun was a good man with a gun, Wayne LaPierre woulda been shot to death long ago by a good man with a gun.<br /><br />Ok, I'm done. You guys can go back to removing all doubt.OnlyWiseMannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-43355338413324208672015-05-05T11:48:31.417+10:002015-05-05T11:48:31.417+10:00THE KIND OF GOOD NEWS YOU'LL NEVER HEAR FROM T...THE KIND OF GOOD NEWS YOU'LL NEVER HEAR FROM TH LAME STREAM NEWS MEDIABird of Paradisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-17311144679633744332015-04-21T07:28:30.206+10:002015-04-21T07:28:30.206+10:00Here's another link for the list:
Uber driver...Here's another link for the list:<br /><br />Uber driver, licensed to carry gun, shoots gunman in Logan Square<br /><br />http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html<br /><br />Quote:<br />Authorities say no charges will be filed against an Uber driver who shot and wounded a gunman who opened fire on a crowd of people in Logan Square over the weekend.<br /><br />The driver had a concealed-carry permit and acted in the defense of himself and others, Assistant State's Attorney Barry Quinn said in court Sunday.<br /><br />A group of people had been walking in front of the driver around 11:50 p.m. in the 2900 block of North Milwaukee Avenue when Everardo Custodio, 22, began firing into the crowd, Quinn said.<br /><br />The driver pulled out a handgun and fired six shots at Custodio, hitting him several times, according to court records. Responding officers found Custodio lying on the ground, bleeding, Quinn said. No other injuries were reported.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08756365895376866071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-45143443677363635822014-07-27T12:57:20.991+10:002014-07-27T12:57:20.991+10:00The latest episode of a mass killing stopped by an...The latest episode of a mass killing stopped by an armed citizen:<br /><br />D.A.: Hospital gunman intended to kill others; suspect to face 1st-degree murder charge:<br /><br />http://www.pottsmerc.com/general-news/20140725/da-hospital-gunman-intended-to-kill-others-suspect-to-face-1st-degree-murder-charge<br /><br />Quote:<br /><br />Not only did Plotts have a loaded .32-caliber revolver on him when he showed up for his appointment with Silverman, but he was also carrying an additional 39 bullets, authorities said. Investigators believe Plotts had plans to shoot other staff members, but was stopped by two male employees. “We believe that after he killed the caseworker and tried to kill Dr. Silverman that he was not going to stop there,” said Whelan. “We believe that Mr. Plotts, if it wasn’t for the heroic action of the doctor and the caseworker, we believe he was there and was going to reload that revolver and continue to fire and continue to kill.”Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08756365895376866071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-82611901426580990642014-02-08T11:30:14.878+10:002014-02-08T11:30:14.878+10:00This is the best argument I've heard on the su...This is the best argument I've heard on the subject:<br />"What does the government want to do, that it can ONLY do if it disarms its citizens?"<br /><br />Should scare the hell out of all of us. You going to pretend all of those communist regimes who disarmed their people, then started exterminating who they didn't like--by the millions-- should we pretend none of that ever happened? Do you think liberals/progressives value human life? Open your eyes, its obvious they don't. Abortion... they worship the planet and view humans as a scourge on it. Do you think Germans pre-holocaust ever thought something like that would happen in their country? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-61025316391161850872013-12-27T10:46:06.186+10:002013-12-27T10:46:06.186+10:00This is the reason why people should have their ow...This is the reason why people should have their own guns. It doesn't mean that guns will always be used for killing innocent people. It is also a tool for self defense. I bought <a href="http://www.ozusedguns.com/" rel="nofollow">oz used guns</a> for this reason.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01480842843957779125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-13140686944325420162013-10-07T11:55:35.801+10:002013-10-07T11:55:35.801+10:00Guns are bad! No, guns are good! I don't car...Guns are bad! No, guns are good! I don't care! The truth; the lies; all the BULLSHIT is in, people. And, just so you know...I'm never, ever giving up my guns - FOR ANYTHING. I'll hide them if I have to and use them if I'm forced to. But, come Hell or high water, nobody is takin' them from me while I'm still breathing. No matter what the government goons and liars promise or threaten, it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Besides, if the Obama-trons succeed in taking away our guns and "fundamentally changing the United States of America", trust me, you won't want to live in the country America will become, anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-10570911091765584432013-10-03T20:52:49.844+10:002013-10-03T20:52:49.844+10:00“Mass shootings are a tragedy, just like earthquak...“Mass shootings are a tragedy, just like earthquakes, fires, or tornadoes. Isn't it time we actually prepared for them” That's my point, these things are happening all the time, but we're shocked every time. We should have trainings and drills and stuff by now! (The quote was from Fight, Flight, or Hide, by John Forsythe if anyone was wondering)<br />http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Flight-Surviving-Shooting-ebook/dp/B00B9J8FL2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-39846065593752109372013-09-23T09:23:03.925+10:002013-09-23T09:23:03.925+10:00You need to add the Boiling Springs South Side Fre...You need to add the Boiling Springs South Side Freewill Baptist Church, Boiling Springs, SC, March 25, 2012, to your list of shootings that were stopped by CPL holders. A man who had lost custody of his children acted like he was having a heart attack during the morning service; he was cleared by first responders, after which he left the church. He went out to the vehicle driven by his sister (who was also charged with providing him with a shotgun), and returned with the firearm. His actions had been witnessed by members of the church, who secured the doors or the church; the attacker kicked them in. The grandson of the pastor, who possesses a CPL, held the attacker at bay with his firearm as other members of the congregation tackled and detained him until police arrived. <br /><br />Most of the media accounts of this event, like the one in HuffPost, conveniently leave out the part about the CPL holder holding the attacker at gun point and focus only on the brave members of the church who tackled him.<br /><br />http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120325/ARTICLES/120329781"]http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120325/ARTICLES/120329781ezkl2230https://www.blogger.com/profile/03597019396979223468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-44027155480966664552013-09-23T00:00:13.766+10:002013-09-23T00:00:13.766+10:00It is not guns or gun control that makes the diffe...It is not guns or gun control that makes the difference in murder rates between western European countries and the United States. It is demographics.<br /><br />European Murder Rates Compared to the United States: Demographics vs Guns <br /><br />http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to.html<br /><br />If you remove the cultural sub groups that do not exist in Europe from the United States murder rates, the murder rate falls right in the middle of European murder rates.Dean Weingartenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07026716292548440054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-88364236341634946442013-05-06T15:12:34.934+10:002013-05-06T15:12:34.934+10:001. Gun control does not mean gun bans. No one is c...1. Gun control does not mean gun bans. No one is coming to take your gun so please keep your paranoid fantasies out of this.<br /><br />I'm sure that every locality that has suffered a gun ban was told the same thing as it was incrementally implemented.<br /><br />2. The guvamint isn't out to get you. You are most likely so insignificant to them you aren't even on any radar.<br /><br /><br />There can no longer be much doubt about how insignificant our government sees us, and our rights...which is what concerns many of us about them. We keep wondering where "of the people, by the people, and for the people" went.<br /><br /><br />3. The second amendment is NOT absolute, see 2008 DC vs Heller. Just like the first amendment, it has restrictions.<br /><br /><br />Yes, we are well aware of how some wish to interpret the framer's intent, despite all facts.<br /><br /><br />4. If you are against gun control, you are against background checks and for selling guns to criminals. Those are forms of gun control already in place.<br /><br />I don't believe I have heard anyone here advocate the sale of firearms to criminals...but since you bring it up, I for one would like to see better enforcement of current laws before wasting a whole forrest of paper on less enforceable laws than we already have. <br /><br />5. If the constitution is sacred and can never be changed, do you think women should not have been given the right to vote? Or African Americans equal rights? That was amended in the constitution.<br /><br />Wait...I thought you said nobody was coming for our guns? Now you are advocating a repeal of the 2nd Ammendment? Most changes to our constitution have been to guarantee rights, not infringe upon then...not sure I'm very comfortable with that kind of thought.<br /><br />6. Just because a form of control isn't perfect does not mean it is completely useless.<br /><br />It's useless if it is not enforceable, heck we've already seen that our government is not adequately enforcing the laws already on the books that you like so well.<br /><br /><br />7. PLEASE, and i mean PLEASE stop comparing guns to other things that cause fatalities (cars, ladders, medical malpractices). <br /><br />I don't think the intent is compare them to other things as much as it is to give context to the statistics that are thrown around...numbers without context are often very misleading...or did you already know that?<br /><br /><br />a. Because cars have many many regulations and because of this we have limited the amount of car fatalities over the years. Same with ladders, same with medical malpractice. All of those things have a history of regulation, laws passed to help prevent deaths.<br /><br />Yes, and for even longer it has been against the law to commit murder with a gun...funny how criminals, by definition, ignore those laws...<br /><br />b. Guns have only one function, to kill or damage. By removing/restricting them you don't lose a lot. Remove cars and see how you do. Remove doctors and see how you do. <br /><br />Then again I might tell you that a guns purpose is to protect and preserve, and that many instances in history have shown how a poorly armed society has protected or preserved itself.<br /><br /><br />And finally, why is it that ANY other source of fatalities are subject to be made safer but for some reason, guns are completely exempt from this logic. No one cares about the 10+k homocides each year, or the 30K total gun fatalities.<br /><br />Of course we care, just as we care about the fatalities from the subjects you don't want to hear about (cars, ladders, etc.), we care about stabbing fatalities, and drownings, I am saddened by loss of life, and I intend to do what I can to protect and preserve my life, and the lives of my loved ones...who knows, I may even save yours someday...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-24677880085194490332013-04-25T19:30:23.757+10:002013-04-25T19:30:23.757+10:00"You can't defend the 1st amendment witho...<br /><br /> "You can't defend the 1st amendment without the 2nd amendment"<br /><br />The 1st Amendment is also essential for protecting the 2nd Amendment.Dean Weingartenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07026716292548440054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-151325552728451492013-04-25T19:28:28.816+10:002013-04-25T19:28:28.816+10:00"crimes involving guns especially mass murder...<br />"crimes involving guns especially mass murder have never been committed by a legally licensed gun holder"<br /><br />This statement seems to be hyperbole to me. The truth is that concealed carry permit holders commit crimes at a frequency a bit less than police do.<br /><br />"more likely to be killed by lightning than by a firearm discharge"<br /><br />On this statement, it depends on context. Lightning only kills about 50 people a year in the United States, so quite a few more people are killed with firearms than by lightning.<br /><br />On the other hand, if they were talking about activities, It is possible that more people are killed by lightning while playing golf than are killed by firearm accidents while hunting.Dean Weingartenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07026716292548440054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-64228439125485479272013-04-22T17:02:19.678+10:002013-04-22T17:02:19.678+10:00You can't defend the 1st amendment without the...You can't defend the 1st amendment without the 2nd amendmentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-19827191247242909662013-04-03T10:24:11.180+10:002013-04-03T10:24:11.180+10:00I am Canadian so these questions are for my own in...I am Canadian so these questions are for my own info<br /><br />Just a question, although I will never really understand the debate about guns, something someone said to me is really on my mind. I can not seem to find an answer verify this claim because every time i searched I was directed here. or another site about Crimes deterred by CCW holders. which is good about the crimes settled but bad for my research.<br /><br />the statement was this<br /><br />"crimes involving guns especially mass murder have never been committed by a legally licensed gun holder"<br /><br />also I have heard this one:<br /><br />"more likely to be killed by lightning than by a firearm discharge"outbackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09631083505534113962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-44589437084086280342013-01-31T00:50:41.711+10:002013-01-31T00:50:41.711+10:00>John said...
1. Gun control does not mean...>John said...<br /><br /> 1. Gun control does not mean gun bans. No one is coming to take your gun so please keep your paranoid fantasies out of this.<br /><br />Funny that ALL of the 'gun control' strategies are about restricting this civil right and removing guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens.<br /><br /><br /> 2. The guvamint isn't out to get you. You are most likely so insignificant to them you aren't even on any radar.<br /><br />If politicians campaign on restricting or removing my civil rights and still get elected? Guess what? The _GOVERNMENT_ (nice try on the sneering implication that those who support their own civil rights are uneducated or stupid, BTW. Way to make a point and be listened to.)<br /><br /> 3. The second amendment is NOT absolute, see 2008 DC vs Heller. Just like the first amendment, it has restrictions.<br /><br />Yes. Yes it does. There are many existing restrictions. None of the restrictions came close to preventing the tragedy your knees are jerking against. None of the proposed measures would, either. All they do is restrict my civil rights further.<br /><br /> 4. If you are against gun control, you are against background checks and for selling guns to criminals. Those are forms of gun control already in place.<br /><br />ROFL nice strawman! 'against selling guns to criminals'. Haha! No, I'm FOR selling guns to LAW-ABIDING citizens.<br /><br /> 5. If the constitution is sacred and can never be changed, do you think women should not have been given the right to vote? Or African Americans equal rights? That was amended in the constitution. <br /><br />ROFL more strawmen. So - we should celebrate THOSE rights and restrict others? Tell you what: get the 2nd repealed just as the 21st repealed the 18th. Then we will talk.<br /><br /> 6. Just because a form of control isn't perfect does not mean it is completely useless.<br /><br />You ARE a funny guy! So, 'separate but equal' wasn't a restriction of civil rights? I mean, it wasn't completely useless, the 'African Americans' were still free, right?<br /><br /> 7. PLEASE, and i mean PLEASE stop comparing guns to other things that cause fatalities (cars, ladders, medical malpractices).<br /><br /> a. Because cars have many many regulations and because of this we have limited the amount of car fatalities over the years. Same with ladders, same with medical malpractice. All of those things have a history of regulation, laws passed to help prevent deaths.<br /><br /> b. Guns have only one function, to kill or damage. By removing/restricting them you don't lose a lot. Remove cars and see how you do. Remove doctors and see how you do.<br /><br />ROFL one function. The many people that defend their families, the many mass killings and crimes prevented by guns (remember the subject of the article?) not reported because crime prevention doesn't 'sell' as well as crime might disagree with you. So, I don't see why I should agree that guns are special and cannot be compared to any other tool or object that can be put to either virtuous or nefarious use....<br /><br />> And finally, why is it that ANY other source of fatalities are subject to be made safer but for some reason, guns are completely exempt from this logic. No one cares about the 10+k homocides each year, or the 30K total gun fatalities.<br /><br />HAHAHA! And then you DO compare 'guns to other things that cause fatalities'! Your closer is a 'No True Scotsman' appeal that doesn't apply to you? Narrowing the subject of the argument so that you can exclude any evidence against your point? Really?Imricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-65878220493937385952013-01-25T05:14:24.815+10:002013-01-25T05:14:24.815+10:001. Gun control does not mean gun bans. No one is ...1. Gun control does not mean gun bans. No one is coming to take your gun so please keep your paranoid fantasies out of this.<br /><br />2. The guvamint isn't out to get you. You are most likely so insignificant to them you aren't even on any radar.<br /><br />3. The second amendment is NOT absolute, see 2008 DC vs Heller. Just like the first amendment, it has restrictions.<br /><br />4. If you are against gun control, you are against background checks and for selling guns to criminals. Those are forms of gun control already in place.<br /><br />5. If the constitution is sacred and can never be changed, do you think women should not have been given the right to vote? Or African Americans equal rights? That was amended in the constitution.<br /><br />6. Just because a form of control isn't perfect does not mean it is completely useless.<br /><br />7. PLEASE, and i mean PLEASE stop comparing guns to other things that cause fatalities (cars, ladders, medical malpractices). <br /><br /> a. Because cars have many many regulations and because of this we have limited the amount of car fatalities over the years. Same with ladders, same with medical malpractice. All of those things have a history of regulation, laws passed to help prevent deaths.<br /><br /> b. Guns have only one function, to kill or damage. By removing/restricting them you don't lose a lot. Remove cars and see how you do. Remove doctors and see how you do. <br /><br />And finally, why is it that ANY other source of fatalities are subject to be made safer but for some reason, guns are completely exempt from this logic. No one cares about the 10+k homocides each year, or the 30K total gun fatalities.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-14880016373172088132013-01-20T21:26:42.784+10:002013-01-20T21:26:42.784+10:00How many total murders are in france? That would ...How many total murders are in france? That would be my question. They dont have guns so what are they using? What is your crime rate there in comparison to gun saturated countries. Can someone find these numbers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-22568217763954899622013-01-15T02:36:21.559+10:002013-01-15T02:36:21.559+10:00People need to quit lying out their ass. John Be...People need to quit lying out their ass. John Berbatis, you totally inflated the amount of deaths last year in the US. It was only 11k, AND of that 11k - 2k of them were justified homicides from Cops or civilians(which means self defense). I forgot how many more were from Suicides but those were included in that number.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-44927571627376555552013-01-15T02:31:43.057+10:002013-01-15T02:31:43.057+10:00Wow.. some of you are so ignorant. You can NOT c...Wow.. some of you are so ignorant. You can NOT compare two completely different cultures. Those of you who compare the US to any other small nation has thrown logic right out the window. For one the US has many problems with Gangs and border control, drugs with the drug war. There is just so many dynamics that are completely different within the US than in another country. Compare stats with really high Gun control vs those with really low gun control. More Americans were killed in Chicago last year than in Afganistan, Chicago has extremely strict gun laws. Go figure.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-83028988116505553262013-01-14T13:48:06.813+10:002013-01-14T13:48:06.813+10:00Whoever it was that said there were almost no murd...Whoever it was that said there were almost no murders in the UK, you better check your statistics, you are way off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-7945974587944825032013-01-14T12:54:55.586+10:002013-01-14T12:54:55.586+10:00Thanks for posting this. I am sure the antis will ...Thanks for posting this. I am sure the antis will be sticking their heads in the sand with this. The only violent crime of gun control is gun control.Maine NRA Instructorhttp://www.mainecarry.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7877849.post-91860929867663070312013-01-08T13:31:34.708+10:002013-01-08T13:31:34.708+10:00I remind the people who want less guns of one fact...I remind the people who want less guns of one fact.Who shows up when you call 911 for help....the good guys with lots of guns!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com