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| Top Right Frankie Dejesus, TL Diana Davis, LL Samantha Tupper, LR Kwiesha "Reggie" McBride |
A drug deal was going down in a WalMart parking lot. Some of the participants were not happy with the deal. They could not use the criminal justice system, so they used guns. Shots were exchanged between occupants of two cars in the lot. The WalMart parking lot was not in New York or New Jersey. This WalMart was in Augusta, Maine, and in Maine, responsible and honest people can legally carry guns. Two honest and responsible gun carriers stopped the shooting.
The shooting in the Maine WalMart was between New York residents, and it involved Heroin. The four parties arrested were named in an article by centralmaine.com. There was no mention of the responsibly armed people who stopped the shoot out and defused the situation. The suspected drug deal and shootout participants were:Kwiesha "Reggie" McBride of Harlem, New York. Charged with Reckless Conduct with a firearm
Frankie Dejesus of Rochester, N.Y. Charged with Aggravated Assault
Diana Davis of Rochester, N.Y. Charged with Aggravated assault
Samantha Tupper is the blond local woman from Augusta, ME. She is charged with a probation violation.
Media competition is keen in these days of new media and the internet. If one outlet does not cover an interesting angle, another will. Some time you have to look at several sources to find out things left out of the picture in others. From wcsh6.com:
AUGUSTA, Maine (NEWS CENTER) -- Augusta Police say two bystanders, legally armed with handguns, stepped in during a shooting incident at a Walmart in Augusta.More details are reported by a local television station. Note that when one responsible and armed person stepped up, another backed him up. From wabi.tv:
Police say four suspects were taken into custody by police Sunday after allegedly firing gunshots in the parking lot of a Walmart.
The suspects involved were sitting in vehicles parked next to each other when the altercation arose. The occupants of one vehicle fired at the occupants of the other, which resulted in return gunfire.
When the shooting stopped, police said one suspect exited their vehicle to confront the occupants of the other. This is when two bystanders, who were legally carrying, interfered and stopped the incident, police said.
“Two vehicles that had appeared were parked next to each other. The occupants inside exchanged gunfire and then there was an altercation after that between the occupants in the parking lot,” said Lt. Christopher Massey with Augusta PD.While Dan Chavanne may have a concealed carry license now, he started as an open carrier at the age of 18. In Maine, when Chavanne was 18, he could legally open carry, but could not obtain a concealed carry permit. From wgme.com:
During the altercation, customer Daniel Chavanne, who was about to leave with his wife and kids, took matters into his own hands. We’re told Chavanne, a licensed concealed carrier, drew his firearm and diffused the situation. Then another armed shopper came to Chavanne’s aid.
“If they hadn’t stepped in, somebody would have been hurt, severely hurt. You know one of my kids could have got shot,” said Chavanne’s wife, Carrie.
"The way the fight was going, I have no doubt if myself and the other person didn't intervene there would have been at least one body there," Dan Chavanne said.The Chavannes said that the criminals were really bad shots.
Dan says he's open carried since he was 18, because of situations like this.
"If you've got the background, the experience and the training there's no reason not to carry," Dan Chavanne said.
Link to video Here
Chavvane's personal defensive handgun was a subcompact Glock, likely a Model 43 or 42.
The other good Samaritan did not have their name released. There is no mention of whether or not they had a concealed carry permit. Maine became a permitless or "Constitutional" carry state in October of 2015. This makes the likelihood of an honest, responsible person legally carrying a defensive firearm much higher. That makes Maine more dangerous for criminals.
It is a reality that the suspected heroin dealers learned to their discomfort. It may have saved one or more of their lives.
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Link to Gun Watch
Seeking out multiple sources and angles, hmmm. Interesting point.
ReplyDeleteA person could apply that same sentiment across to another context.
"They couldn't use the criminal justice system". Hmmm.
Maybe the whole shooting thing wouldn't have happened at all if these folks could have used that system regarding their private contract - two party contract - that government has no business being involved in in the first place?
Maybe it is true that you hit a huge nail with a huge hammer, in that, it is very possible that if one party could seek remedy to their claim of impropriety by the other party in a civil manner, with a court and jury, umm if they weren't barred use of that system by government overreach with its useless and meaningless prohibition-like actions, maybe, just maybe no shots at all would have been fired.
It occurs to me that this is another example of government causing a problem that wouldn't have existed if it minded its own business instead of trying to mind everyone's business.
So clear was this with Alcohol prohibition that authority itself to prohibit was taken away from government, after it was given. Gee, I wonder, if government already had the power to "ban drugs", and alcohol is indeed a drug, what was the 18th for in the first place? Kinda redundant, eh? Isn't that saying the country went through wicked times amending the Constitution and then doing it again, all when it didn't have to do so at all because some other power existed? Riiiiight. Sure, that is the ticket.
Why even mention this? Well, because it is true, for one. But secondly, a good point was made about root causes. It is not right that a person cannot seek remedy in the justice system over a transaction government doesn't "approve" of or "give its permission" for. And maybe it is just time to admit that this is a real problem, one that leads to many many other problems.
Mike
Ever notice how drug dealers and addicts never look like the sharpest knife in the drawer. even the ones that think they are so much smarter than anyone else dress up like a neon sign that says here I am see how stupid I am. Like I'm wearing everything I own with the pile of money I make with no visible means of support. all that glitter makes for a good long range target.
ReplyDeleteThese two good guys with guns are damn lucky they didn't die in Walmart's parking lot that day.
ReplyDeleteI have to say, it was not real smart on their part.
4-2 odds and shooting already in play. Not the same as one on one or stopping a robbery or an assault on a innocent person.If I saw two cars unloading on each other, I would take cover and make sure I took good mental notes on what was happening.Let the cops handle w this one. Not worth my dying for in breaking up a couple cars of people shooting at each other.
Did Wal-Mart offer him free ammo for life?
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