Friday, May 07, 2021

FL: Homemade Shotguns at Pensacola Gun Turn-In?

 

 Images from facebook City of Pensacola. Long gun and handgun table images combined, cropped and scaled by Dean Weingarten.

A gun turn-in event was sponsored by the Florida city of Pensacola on 20 March, 2021. Numerous sources are claiming some homemade shotguns were sold to the city at the event. The picture above shows the guns the city says they purchased. The homemade shotguns are not among them.

 

From Escambia carry on facebook, picture by Jeremy Bosso, cropped and scaled by Dean Weingarten. 

You can see three slam-fire homemade shotguns in the photograph by Jeremy.  They are being checked out by the police at the Pensacola turn in event.

The City says the homemade guns were not purchased. From facebook:

RUMOR ALERT: There is an inaccurate post circulating from Saturday’s gun buyback event with a photo of a homemade gun. The homemade gun pictured was NOT purchased by the City of Pensacola.
Here are photos of the guns that were actually purchased at the event. As a reminder, this event was 100% VOLUNTARY, and all guns purchased were from citizens who participated voluntarily.
 The city received some pushback from other people on facebook. From facebook
 
Crystal Nay wrote: 
This picture from the actual event and told by multiple witnesses? Just want to be clear

City of Pensacola - Government wrote: 

The gun was brought to the event, but was not purchased by the city.
Another poster on facebook claims the guns were bought. 

Newscolony.com writes the three Boomstick 1776 pipe guns were purchased by the city. From newscolony.com:  

Members of the local Second Admendment advocacy group Escambia Carry showed up to the event with a sign that read “Don’t Get Ripped Off By The City With This Stupid Gun “Buyback’ Program – See Me To Get Fair Market Value For Your Firearm.”

“Other than these rifles, the vast majority were junk,” Escambia Carry’s Jeremy Bosso said in a Facebook post. “Numerous people told us they sold their old junk guns to buy new firearms. Someone sold a Marine Emergency Flare gun. Other attendees had air pistols (BB/pellet guns). The City ran out of money by 9:27am – less than 30 minutes into the event.”

One man showed with three homemade “Boom Stick 1776” pipe shotguns, which were sold sold to police after he demonstrated that they were operable.

This correspondent checked with Escambria Carry. The posters there did not say the slam fire homemade shotguns were purchased. Jeremy Bosso says they were approved to be purchased.  From Escambia carry on facebook:

The gentleman selling the "Boom Stick 1776" shotguns told me he called the City rep beforehand and asked if they would purchase a single-shot shotgun - because the flier said they were buying semi-automatic firearms. Allegedly, he was told they would pay $125 for single-shot shotguns.
I realize the "Boom Stick 1776" was homemade, but it was apparently a functional single-shot shotgun (a "slam fire shotgun").
There are quite a few interesting pictures of "slam fire shotguns" on Google Images.

Jeremy Bosso took the time to clarify what happened on the Pensacola City facebook page.  From facebook:

UPDATE: To clarify, these are my pictures. I was standing right there.
The gentleman selling the "Boom Stick 1776" shotguns told me he called the City rep before the event, and asked if they would purchase a single-shot shotgun - because the flier said they were buying semi-automatic firearms. Allegedly, he was told they would pay $125 for single-shot shotguns. So he attended the event.
At the checkpoint, he did have to demonstrate that they were functional (they were), and he was sent to the payment line, guns in hand. However, while standing in line, they informed everyone that they had run out of money - about 27 minutes after the start.
I realize the "Boom Stick 1776" was homemade, but it was apparently a functional single-shot shotgun (a "slam fire shotgun"). You can find some pretty interesting images online of said "slam fire shotguns.

Jeremy makes clear: The homemade guns would have been purchased, but the city ran out of money before they reached the head of the line.

The lesson is clear. If you wish to take advantage of one of these programs, get there early.

Some private purchasers did just that, and were rewarded for their efforts.

 

Image from facebook of private purchases at Pensacola, cropped and scaled by Dean Weingarten

The guns purchased by the private buyers appear to be a Ruger 1022 with scope, an SKS, and a double barreled shotgun.  

The Pensacola News Journal reports 71 guns were collected, expending the $10,000 budget in half and hour. 

Prices for the program were set at $150 for semi-automatic pistols, $125 for revolvers and $200 for semi-automatic rifles.

Robinson announced at his press conference that 63 guns were purchased, but city officials later clarified that 71 guns were collected at the event. The city only paid for 68 of the guns, as three of them were turned over without payment after funds had run out.

From the pictures of the guns purchased, as displayed on facebook, this correspondent was able to tentatively identify the following:

 

21 revolvers listed at $125 each, or $2,625.

27 semi-auto pistols, listed at $150, or  $4,050.

1 derringer, unknown price

11 semi-auto .22 rifles, 1 unknown semi-auto, listed at $200, or $2,400

1 semi-auto shotgun, unknown price

3 single-shot shotguns, unknown price 

1 carcano military bolt gun, unknown price 

1 single shot .22, unknown price

2 undetermined guns, unknown price.


The known prices come to $9,075, leaving $925 to pay for the semi-auto shotgun, bolt guns, single shot shotguns,  and undetermined guns, a total of 9 guns. It seems to be about right.

Before the current bubble, many .22 semi-auto rifles could be purchased for under $200, brand new. 

The Remington 550 would have been a good deal, if it were working, for $200. The Carcano is worth more than $125. Most of the handguns appear to be inexpensive, with retail values somewhat less than what was offered by the city. 


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