Thursday, August 06, 2015

CA: "Ghost Gun" used in Murder Suicide

The "ghost gun" used in the murder/suicide in California was built with off the shelf parts, an 80% receiver, and a fair amount of machining.

The police officer in the video says that crimes committed with guns made this way are rare.  This is the first murder that he has heard of where one was used.  From

WALNUT CREEK (KRON/BCN) — A 21-year-old Lafayette native built the firearms he used to kill a 19-year-old college woman before he turned the gun on himself at a home in Walnut Creek last month, police said Tuesday.

Investigators say Scott Bertics bought gun parts through the mail and then secretly built the two firearms he used in the murder-suicide that claimed the life of Clare Orton.
The reporter noted that a serial number would not have made any difference in this case.

It would have been much easier for the murderer to buy a gun than to make this particular model, even under California's strict gun laws.

A simple shotgun or rifle could have been purchased for far less than the components of the "ghost gun".  California's notorious 10 day "waiting period" would have taken less time than that required to order the parts, have them shipped, do the machining, and put them together.  There is no indication that the murderer was prohibited from purchasing firearms.

Firearms have been produced in homes for nearly 500 years.  Simple homemade guns are common, effective, untraceable, and impossible to keep from criminals.

David Kopel noted that a federal study found that one-fifth of the guns seized by the police in Washington, D.C., were homemade.  Most homemade guns are considerably simpler and easier to make than "ghost guns".

In Brazil, where there are extreme restrictions on the legal ownership and purchase of guns, the criminals favor homemade submachine guns.  Murder rates in Brazil are five times greater than in the U.S.

In India, where restrictions on legal guns are similar to Brazil's, pistols are made in small shops and sold for $10 - $20.   Detailed instructions on how to make them are available on the Internet.  India's murder rates are slightly lower than the United States.

Murders are committed with numerous different weapons/tools/objects.  Hands and feet are commonly used without any other implements.

Murder rates are driven by culture, not weaponry.

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Wireless.Phil said...

AR lower?

Hell, China is now 3D printing Boeing parts!
Fly on any China plane, no way!

Wireless.Phil said...

Keep being redirected to another site. Left Jon Ray a message about this last month, traced it to problem with thd site meter or page meter.

Have no idea who or why this comes up, but not all the time.

Wireless.Phil said...

Good post, but some weapons seem to be repeated at a different angle, or mass produced by the same shop?

Dean Weingarten said...

In Brazil, it is common for criminal gangs to run small shops and produce runs of successful homemade submachinegun designs. I have also seen a lot of similar designs in the small black market shop produced pistols in India.

Artfldgr said...

look up zipgun in wiki and see a wonderful clever example that anyone can build going to home depot getting plumbing parts... and with the USA rife with machine equipment left over from when we used to actually make stuff, making such things is easy

but when they are illegal, what will stop the cocaine dealers who just lost a 6 ton load from throwing in a ton of ak47s (and later versions) a bunch of dragunovs and a few cases of hand grenades.

when someone throws a hand grenade into a crowded theater, people wlll the guns came back...