Saturday, November 21, 2015

Using The Terrorist Watchlist Against Gun Owners

If you want to keep your right to keep and bear arms, you need to contact your congressman and U.S. senators now.

Amid the horror and outrage over last week’s Paris terrorist attacks, on the pretext of stopping terrorism, New York Democrat Congressman Pete King is pushing a scheme to deny your Second Amendment rights—and deny your right to due process in the bargain—by banning firearm sales to anyone on the FBI’s so-called Terrorist Watch List.

There are several key points to be made here:
  • Just because someone who’s on the terrorist watch list does get a gun, that doesn’t mean they’re terrorists or criminals or anything else. Because you can be put on the watch list for any reason, or no reason at all. There doesn’t need to be any proof of wrongdoing. All you need to go on the list is some anonymous bureaucrat’s say-so
  • The government won’t tell you who’s on the lists. Or who put them on the lists. Or why. You can try to appeal after they deny you your rights. But since they won’t tell you what you’re accused of, or who’s accusing you, there’s not much way to fight back. 
  • In other words, under this scheme, you can lose your most fundamental constitutional freedom—your Second Amendment right to defend yourself, your family, your country and your freedom—simply because some anonymous somebody somewhere said you shouldn’t have it. And you can’t get it back until some anonymous somebody says you can. Consider, for example, that even three federal legislators, including Sen. Ted Kennedy, found themselves on the list. As Charles C.W. Cooke pointed out on, some 280,000 people on the list have “no affiliation with known terrorist groups” but simply fall under “reasonable suspicion.” 
  • Given this kind of power, President Barack Obama or any other government official could be able to add anyone to the list for any reason—perhaps returning veteran status, party affiliation, or even membership in an organization like the National Rifle Association—and wouldn’t be answerable to anyone for it.

That’s the deadly cancer on freedom that lies at the heart of the so-called “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act” (H.R. 1076).

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Anonymous said...

I sure wish gun rights activists would oppose ALL lists the way they oppose "watch" lists.

Carry permits are a list, folks. And I witness supposed patriots championing those "lists" as "victories" and "wins" all the time. I also see them wickedly attack those of us who stand opposed to them, instead standing tall for the Second Amendment and its enforcement.

Wireless.Phil said...

In the last day of two there was an article on how people on the list were still able to buy guns. Screw-ups in databases.
Search their site and you'll get garbage back, worst site search I've ever seen.

Maybe that's where this clown got the idea.

Wireless.Phil said...

Depends on what news site you go to, people on the no fly list, can be called terrorist.

Just Googled "no fly list still bought guns"
You can be on thaf list for 100s of reasons and still not be a terrorist.
I'm surprised I'm not after flying into conflict countries to help US military.

NRA fights it

ABC NEWS 2 days ago
Individuals on FBI's Terrorist Watchlist Allowed to Legally Purchase Firearms

SAS 2008 said... shows this as only a 3% chance of getting out of committee and a 1% change of being enacted. Since the Paris attacks a few more Democrats have signed on as co-sponsors. Pete King has introduced this bill every year since 2007 and I don't think it has ever gotten out of committee. Unless this gets put up for a vote to be passed out of the current committee I am not going to worry about it much.

The govtrack page for the bill is and you can sign up to follow the bill there if you want.

Anonymous said...

I know what you are saying, I have a book printed in around 1900 that tells me how to make just about anything I want, including the chemicals that you can not currently buy.